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Jamil Bonnick isn’t just an experienced product designer with a keen eye for design, but he’s also a storyteller. While we discussed his background and career journey, and his new job at Etsy, our conversation was so much more! Our chat spanned a number of interesting and surprising topics from design all the way to Eastern philosophy and to effective business strategy. He truly is a renaissance man and his vast knowledge shines through during this conversation.

This episode is sponsored by Sappi North America’s Ideas that Matter program. Sappi, a maker of high-quality printing, packaging and release papers as well as dissolving wood pulp, is now celebrating the 20th year of this unique grant competition.

Since it began, the program has given more than $13 million in grants, and supported more than 500 projects to benefit social causes. Ideas That Matter has also worked with amazing designers, many of whom we’ve also featured on Revision Path including; De Nichols, Rich Hollant, Dori Tunstall, Silas Munro, Jacinda Walker, Maurice Woods, Bobby Martin Jr., and Antionette Carroll (who will be a judge this year).

If you are a designer who cares about social issues — whether you’re a professional designer, a student, or a design team — the 2019 deadline to apply for a grant in this program is July 19.

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Melvin Hale may say he’s “a regular guy who beat the odds,” but with twenty years of design experience and a decade of design leadership under his belt, he’s so much more than regular.

We started off talking about Melvin’s current work at Facebook, and quickly went on to a look back at his time growing up in Vallejo, going to college in the South, and his journey as a designer through the ad agency world before ending up in Silicon Valley. Melvin also shared tips on how he builds creative teams, spoke on some of his career influences, and even talked about whether or not his kids want to follow in his footsteps. Give this week’s episode a listen and learn more about Melvin!

Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Keisha “TK” Dutes. 

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Dexter Ferguson might be a young designer in this industry, but he is committed to using his abilities to really help change the world. By day, he works at Airbus Aerial as a product designer, helping insurance companies make decisions on damages and risks. When work is over, Dexter puts on his entrepreneur hat as the founder of DebtBennies, a job listing board with companies that will help you pay down your student loans. Pretty innovative!

We talked about how Dexter is able to balance both 9-to-5 work with running his own side projects, and he even gave some really great advice to those out there looking to get to the next level in their career. We also spent some time examining Atlanta’s design and tech scene, with Dexter sharing some his favorite things to do in the city. Dexter’s philosophy of striving for progress ensures that his trajectory in this industry is going to be a positive one, and I think we’ll be hearing a lot more from him in the future!

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You might not immediately think of a strong design community when someone mentions Cleveland, Ohio, but UX designer Alex Binder is well on his way to changing that perception. His work ethic and reputation are already helping him establish himself in the industry, including his current position with health tech company OnShift.

Alex and I started off with a look into the Cleveland design community, and he talked about how his education at Cleveland State University gave him a solid look into how design isn’t always about visuals. From there we touched on a number of other topics, including the increase in UX designers over the past several years, and Alex told me about his dream role and what he wants to accomplish for the remainder of the year.

Keep an eye out for Alex Binder — he’s making moves!

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Cyrus Henderson may be new to MailChimp, but he’s no stranger to the product design game, As a product designer on the ads team, he’s also helped work on some of their latest campaigns.

We talked a lot about learning and inspiration, and he shared some of his influences and gave advice for anyone wanting to get into product design. Cyrus is a great example of someone that’s really taken advantage of both social media and the immense amount of design knowledge out there on the Internet to carve out his own place in the design community and make a name for himself. From here, the sky’s the limit!

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