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How do you celebrate 300 episodes of dynamic conversations and thought-provoking opinions? You invite two leaders in the industry to sit down and dig even deeper!

We recorded this episode live in New York’s Green Space with over 50 guests for an intimate and passionate discussion and Q+A with Gail Anderson and Catt Small. Gail and Catt have both had impressive journeys and continue to push the conversation around inclusivity and the future of design forward. Their insights into the industry and design academia are a must listen! If you’re an aspiring designer or an experienced professional this is an episode you do not want to miss!

Gail Anderson

Catt Small

This episode is sponsored by Sappi North America’s Ideas that Matter program—a grant competition that supports designers partnering with nonprofit organizations on social impact projects.

Since the start of the program 20 years ago, Sappi, a maker of high quality printing, packaging and release papers as well as dissolving wood pulp, has witnessed firsthand how the creative work of designers can change society. They remain committed to the belief that good ideas inspire people to take action, and great ideas can change the world.

If you’d like to submit a project you care about, the 2019 deadline to apply for a grant is July 19. To learn more about the program, visit sappi.com/ideas-that-matter.


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Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Brittani Brown. 


Fruitvale Station. Miles Ahead. Creed. Moonlight. If you’ve seen any of these films over the past few years, then you’re familiar with the work of Hannah Beachler. You may also know her for her Afrofuturist design direction on Black Panther, becoming not just the first Black person to be nominated for an Academy Award for Best Production Design, but also being the first one to win it as well. She’s even worked with Beyoncé on Lemonade, as well as the On The Run II tour with Beyoncé and Jay Z! In short, Hannah Beachler is definitely #goals when it comes to Black design.

While we did discuss Hannah’s career highlights, we also talked about her life growing up in Ohio, her early work in production design, and how she first met Ryan Coogler. Hannah also shared how she prepares for working on films, what life is like after winning an Oscar, and how she stays inspired. Hannah is definitely proof that if you do your best, it is definitely good enough!

This episode is sponsored by Sappi North America’s Ideas that Matter program.

Sappi, a maker of high quality printing, packaging and release papers as well as dissolving wood pulp, is celebrating 20 years of this unique grant competition for designers working on social impact projects.

Applications are considered by an annually selected panel of top designers and social impact leaders and this year includes Sam Aquillano from the Design Museum Foundation, Ashleigh Axios from the Obama White House, George Aye of Greater Good Studio, Antionette Carroll of Creative Reaction Lab and Christine Taylor from Hallmark Cards.

The 2019 deadline to apply for a grant is July 19. To learn more about the program, visit sappi.com/ideas-that-matter.


This episode is brought to you by Abstract: design workflow management for modern design teams.

Spend less time searching for design files and tracking down feedback, and spend more time focusing on innovation and collaboration.

Like Glitch, but for designers, Abstract is your team’s version-controlled source of truth for design work. With Abstract, you can version design files, present work, request reviews, collect feedback, and give developers direct access to all specs—all from one place.

Sign your team up for a free, 30-day trial today by heading over to www.abstract.com.


Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Brittani Brown. 


Netflix is a major player in the entertainment industry, and their streaming video service is available nearly worldwide on smart TVs, game consoles, mobile phones, and more. But how do they provide such a consistent visual experience to millions of customers? It’s thanks to people like Netflix’s senior UI engineer, Rich Smith. As a member of the marketing tech team, he focuses on the web app experience.

Rich explained his process behind designing at Netflix, and talked about what drew him to work there after moving out to the Bay Area. Rich also shared a tale about his journey from design to software engineering, mentioned what first got him interested in tech, and talked about his mentoring and volunteer work with /dev/color. Rich’s story is proof that even when you’re stuck, something as simple as a change in perspective can help empower you to move forward.

Next week: episode 300!

This episode is sponsored by Sappi North America’s Ideas that Matter program — a grant competition that supports designers partnering with nonprofit organizations to bring impactful marketing campaigns to life.

Sappi, a maker of high quality papers, has offered this program to the design community worldwide for 20 years, and has funded more than 500 projects with grants totaling over $13 million.

Winning campaigns have raised awareness of social issues such as education, sustainability, nutrition and more.

If you’d like to submit a project you care about, you can do so until July 19. To learn more about the program and process, visit sappi.com/ideas-that-matter.


Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Brittani Brown. 


Husani Barnwell not only has two impressive degrees under his belt from Parsons and Harvard, a mile long resume, but he continues to reinvent himself. He is a storyteller, a designer, and a leader in the industry. His passion and drive shine through in his work and in our conversation! He is honest and open, and our chat was an enlightening experience that I appreciated. His experience ranges from Creative Consultant to Educator and so many things in between. Talking to him highlighted the important work that is happening, and that still needs to happen, in this industry.

If you’re not following him, you should be!

Tickets are on sale now for our 300th episode celebration!
June 14 at The Greene Space — doors open at 7:00pm!

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Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Brittani Brown. 


Designing for public safety might not sound like the most exciting job, but that’s because you haven’t heard Brett Marshall describe it. As the principal designer at CentralSquare, he helps design interfaces that are used by police officers, first responders, and public administration agencies across the country.

Brett and I talked about the unique challenges he faces with his work, and he also shared how he went from designing at ad agencies to winding up at his current role. We also discussed Brett’s background, and he spoke about some his influences in the industry and what he wishes he knew when he first started as a designer. Learn more about him in this week’s interview!

Tickets are on sale now for our 300th episode celebration!
June 14 at The Greene Space — doors open at 7:00pm!

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Revision Path is a Glitch Media Network podcast, and is produced by Deanna Testa and edited by Brittani Brown.